Ken (funkybassoon) wrote in conlangs,

Solresol!

As a recently graduated music major and a linguaphile with a penchant for conlangs, I present to you:

SOLRESOL!
http://www.ptialaska.net/~srice/solresol/intro.htm

I'm interested if anyone has any experience with this language, or if they have ever even heard of it.

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padparadscha

June 20 2006, 20:02:27 UTC 6 years ago

I've heard of it, but being the tone deaf dope I am I never delved much into it.

darkespeon

June 20 2006, 20:39:31 UTC 6 years ago

My goodness, what a horrible language. Creative and original, yes, but horrible. And I that thought Klingon was bad, LOL.

Anyways, never heard of it. And I wish I hadn't; I didn't know anyone was capable of creating something that ugly.

But I suppose that you being a music major and a linguaphile would really like it, hehe.

switchercat

June 21 2006, 19:25:09 UTC 6 years ago

What makes a language 'horrible' or 'ugly'?

rikchik

June 20 2006, 20:47:09 UTC 6 years ago

I'd heard of it - it's interesting as an idea but isn't particularly usable, like many a priori languages of its time. Lots of modern conlangs are similarly terrible and not as creative.

foxfour

June 20 2006, 22:04:06 UTC 6 years ago

seconded.

embryomystic

June 20 2006, 23:37:23 UTC 6 years ago

It's kind of ridiculous, but charming in its originality.

I like the idea of borrowing Solresol words here and there into an a posteriori language, and naturally, adapting them to the phonology of the target language. Could come up with some interesting stuff. Someday, praps.

ayelis

June 21 2006, 00:35:39 UTC 6 years ago

But you don't have to use notes, right? You could use the syllables, or even the fingers?

That's still kinda silly. I'm sure there are ways that one could seperate words... With rests perhaps... Dore.re.redo means "Me and Mine". But what do different octaves mean? Longer or shorter notes? Longer or shorter rests? When is it someone else's turn to speak/sing, when you are resting? After a whole-rest? Two whole rests? How do you define what meter you're speaking at? Depends on the importance of the situation? Or your skill at singing the concepts?

machine_elf

June 21 2006, 04:44:54 UTC 6 years ago

There's also a related language called Eaiea, which uses all twelve notes of the chromatic scale.

I've toyed with the idea of a consonant and vowel-based language with phonemic musical tones, i.e. a more complex tonal system. Probably 22 consonants, 6 vowels and 20 tones. It wouldn't be very friendly to people who don't have perfect pitch, so it's not at all intended to be an IAL. That is, if I ever get any of it made.

ayelis

June 21 2006, 20:04:20 UTC 6 years ago

Perfect pitch is an acquired skill. Language is an acquired skill.
Some can't learn perfect pitch. Some can't learn languages.

The chromatic scale language might appeal to computers, who might benefit from communicating using a dodecanary system (on a number of octaves) instead of the normal binary. Might sound better than modem-static too. ;)

machine_elf

June 22 2006, 01:16:32 UTC 6 years ago

I wonder what's more difficult, learning how to name absolute pitches, or learning a very complex classical language? I've been able to do the former, but I started in very early childhood.

If a computer was to operate on frequency, it would have to be something well beyond human hearing range, as in gigahertz and terahertz, or it would be a very slow piece of equipment. Or are you thinking a computer language recorded like sheet music, then compiled or interpreted into machine language?

On a tangent, someone in the former USSR attempted to make a trinary computer in the early days of computers, using the digits -1, 0 and 1, I read somewhere.

funkybassoon

June 22 2006, 00:15:46 UTC 6 years ago

Ooooooh... you could make atonal sentences using 12 tone rows!!!! I <3 schoenberg!

machine_elf

June 22 2006, 01:07:50 UTC 6 years ago

I'm actually thinking of using melodic modes in a phonemic function, if it's possible. Not just major/minor/church modes, but also Arabic maqams, Indian raga modes and various pentatonic and blues scales. Maybe mode might communicate the mood and attitude of the speaker in ways words alone don't do well.

And maybe it won't be 20 "tones"; the number sounds high as an afterthought. Maybe 12 instead.

machine_elf

June 22 2006, 01:08:53 UTC 6 years ago

(I also used "maybe" too many times in that previous reply.)
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